| "The
best 'spin' is the Truth" - mick lambe |
If you
'Anarchists' (much laughter) want to take on the State, the Police
and the Corporate press - best
you have Truth, the support of other political groups and
(the usually sympathetic) monitors
and witnesses that attend
Victorian
Special Operations Group
Beretta 92FS
H&K USP
SIG P226
H&K MP-5
F88
M-16A2
H&K PSG-1
Remington Model 700
Benelli Super 90
The
State also have an army - navy (the submarines present real difficulties)
- and airforce - so violence is probably not going to succeed
- You do have the right
to defend yourself (or not) with appropriate force. It is a human
right and a natural response to violence and intimidation
As
this web site would evidence
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More
arrests are expected
However,
a spokesman for the protesters, Mick Lambe, says they had
a permit for the action and claims police provoked the confrontation
by trying to seize the bong.
He
claims one woman's top was torn off and officers used nerve
holds and strangulation techniques to subdue the protesters,
who remained nonviolent.
"There's
a tradition in Darwin and in most of Australia too; you don't
hit cops unless you're an idiot," Mr Lambe said.
"And
besides, it's violence, you know."
"You
start doing that and the police have every right to start
belting you back."
"We're
not going to give them a chance to escalate the violence."
"They're
the people with the batons, they're the people with the guns."
Extract:
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/NAP/pages/Articles_29.htm
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Which
leaves "hearts and minds" - the "intellectual revolution"
- I believe in
You
mob can't even take on one person (myself) successfully in a spin
war - because you are forced to lie and abuse human rights to "succeed"
- You lose the moment you adopt these tactics
Best
think just what it is you are fighting for - and about the damage
you have done to the credibility of past and future protesters/activists
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The
following post has status hidden:
On
tactics, motivation and commitment - O z indymedia
by mick • Sunday February 04, 2007
Oz indymedia is the obvious place to take on White Australian
attitudes - and the ugly politicisation of this supposedly autonomous
network intent on dividing and disempowering the activist community
- A network run by autocrats who believe hosting RACE/HATE campaigns
and real-time intimidation against people who refuse to obey
their dictates - are acceptable tactics
_________________________
A
politicised and biased network has no right to be posing as
open and progressive
UN
UDHR article 12 - No one shall be subjected to arbitrary
interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence,
nor to attacks upon his (sic) honour and reputation
Re: Joe - Astounding!!
by Joseph
Toscano (reposted) Friday February 02, 2007
from Anarchist Age Weekly Review No 725
"I am astounded by Mr. Steve Bracks, the Victoria Police Association
and the media's hysterical response to the call for the Office
of Police Integrity to investigate police conduct during the
G20 protests."
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I'm astounded that anyone takes the distraction of a meaningless squabble
between State instrumentality's seriously
They are not on OUR side joe
_________________________
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/Victoria.htm
-------------------------------
My advice would be to...
...create havoc and chaos in a meaningful way - your turf - your degree
of commitment - your tactics
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/incarc_p7.htm
- make Police brutality - the politicisation of the Police - the militarisation
of the Police, etc... an issue...
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/NAP/pages/Parliament-invasion.htm
...or shut the fuck up about the predictable consequences of such
actions - so predictable you should have footage/primary evidence
to lay charges and to display to the pubic
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/NAP/pages/Articles_1.htm
- the only court of appeal that matters
The sooner you people realise that the better for all of us
__________________________
Anarchists?
This medium was supposedly created as the 'peoples propaganda' - a
forum for everyone - not one particular political sect
Your network hopes to engage and move the masses with some Yank-inspired
cult that believes black balaclavas inspire public trust?
- that is cool with me
- but naturally my ethic of political and ethical diversity - must
be reciprocated as the POU
makes clear
Not happening - due to an autocratic and illegitimate cult who have
worked tirelessly to undermine and divide the darwin activist community
The "indymedia powers-that-be"
(notes)
The autocrats running these sites, host lies, misinformation, false
accusations and HATE posts against anyone they see as competition
for the hearts and minds of the people they can view through their
balaclava eye-holes
__________________________________
This so-called progressive network caused decent (and already marginalised)
people we care about problems and distress and continue broadcasting
their politically-selective hate 24/7
Their politics of hate
are not ours - we did not post up images of
anyone's dead and battered friends or invade peoples homes and harass
and threaten them in public - in retaliation
- We want nothing to do with them - our decision
Your network has failed to affiliate the people we expelled - just
as you failed to disaffiliate us
- Yours are not effective tactics
- as your network's inability to destroy local solidarity and support
for our collective's decisions in Darwin has demonstrated
sydney indymedia's physical - real-time - excursion to meet with people
the darwin collective had expelled was typical of the bias - shown
by this blatantly politicised network
Stacy Scheff of sydney indymedia (I quote) was scared to "drive into"
an Aboriginal Community...
...that I had lived and worked in for 10 months while sydney indymedia's
campaign to destroy our collective's work heightened
"The hate campaigns on Sydney and Melbourne indymedias intensified
while we were doing a 3 day shoot for the ABC's Messagestick (Indigenous
TV) - getting articles into the 3 main National newspapers - and hosting
meetings with most activist groups in Darwin at One Mile Dam Aboriginal
community We achieved connections of power to houses (one 8 months
without) - prevented women being bashed, etc... and generally made
OMD an issue nationally - while attending court to support Letty Scott
- the widow of an Aboriginal man murdered in Berrimah prison (NT)"
pariahnt.org/Oz-indymedia
You people stick with what you know and do badly - your once-yearly
performing arts spectacular with the Victorian/Sydney Police
_____________________________
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February
02, 2007
Article from: Herald-Sun
PICTURE this. You're in the city. There's a fair bit of commotion
because of the G20 summit, but you're not interested in that.
You're in town with a friend. You stop at a small supermarket
on Swanston St to pick up a drink.
As
you walk to the counter, three to six big men approach. Suddenly,
and without warning, they surround you and say threateningly,
"We've been looking for you".
You
say you haven't done anything, but they grab you and drag you
outside.
You
start calling for help. There is a white van outside. Your friend
runs out and asks what's going on. The men tell him, "Get
the f--- out of here."
They
throw you in the van and close the doors. The men are not wearing
uniforms and their van is unmarked.
They
force you to the floor of the van, hold your legs behind your
back, handcuff you and sit on your head.
You
can hardly breathe. They cut your backpack off your back. They
are swearing at you and abusing you.
They
refuse to answer your questions about who they are. The van
drives for about 10 minutes before it stops and someone tells
you that they are police officers.
They
take you to St Kilda Rd station and only then say they have
arrested you for assaulting an officer in the G20 protest the
day before.
You
tell them that the day before you were in Malmsbury, about 100km
away, but they don't listen.
Finally,
after two hours, they realise you had nothing to do with the
incident and let you go. You are bruised, sore and in shock.
If
this happened to you, what would you do?
Drasko
Boljevic decided to complain. He alleges this is precisely what
happened to him on the weekend of the G20 protests.
It
is this incident, and others, that has led to complaints about
police behaviour during the G20 summit.
The
Federation of Community Legal Centres co-ordinated a team of
volunteer human rights observers to attend the G20 protests.
The team was there to monitor the protest and the police response
and to ensure that the right to peaceful protest was respected.
It
was not there to support any of the protest causes and its work
was to assist all parties, including the police.
The
federation does not support or endorse violent protest.
Violence,
by protesters or by police responding to a peaceful protest,
is contrary to human rights protections.
The
violent protests that took place over the G20 weekend undermined
and alienated those who peacefully supported causes such as
the Make Poverty History campaign and Falun Gong.
Just
after the summit, the federation released a report based on
the team's observations over the weekend.
The
report noted "a high level of aggression and deliberately
provocative behaviour toward the police from some protest groups
and individuals", including "verbal abuse,
property damage, the throwing of missiles and assault".
The
report noted "a high level overall of police discipline
and restraint in the face of deliberately provocative actions
by some protesters".
Premier
Bracks is generally right to say the police "deserve our
praise and support" for their role. However, there were
a number of concerning reports of police incidents against people
not involved in violent protest.
One
of these was the incident involving Drasko Boljevic. Another
involved the failure by police to issue warnings before a baton
charge on a peaceful group of protesters.
There
were also numerous reports of overhead baton strikes against
non-resisting protesters, aimed towards the head, face, back
and neck.
Baton
blows like this carry a serious risk of injury and, according
to police documentation, "should only be used when lethal
force is justified".
Police
in Victoria are generally highly disciplined and professional
and constantly review and improve their practices.
Monitoring
and complaint processes help ensure police accountability and
promote better policing practices and greater safety for officers
and members of the community.
These
processes are vital in securing public trust and confidence
in our police force.
The
investigations into the G20 incidents may find police acted
appropriately, or they may recommend important changes to police
procedures.
Community
legal centres provide free legal services to more than 60,000
Victorians every year.
We
respond to requests for legal assistance from a wide range of
members of the public, many of whom have nowhere else to go
for help.
A
small but important aspect of our work is to ensure police use
their powers properly and to promote respect for the right to
peaceful protest. The federation's work at the G20 summit was
directed to this end.
HUGH
de KRETSER is executive officer of the Federation
of Community Legal Centres (Vic)
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Unlike Hugh I do not
see Drasko
Boljevic getting any justice - not unless it suits a political purpose
- That Police often act like thugs towards activists (when unobserved)
or in group machismo situations is hardly a revelation - given the
universality of such Police behaviour...
...but there
is a universality in the behaviour of some so-called 'Anarchists'
- that is equally disturbing and unwelcome to genuine political
activists
Submission
Re: Victorian - Peaceful Assemblies Bill
PARIAH - People Against Racism In Aboriginal Homelands (Northern
Territory)
"It means anyone opposed to a political gathering can infiltrate
the assembly and cause property damage or any other public disturbance
to end it" - mick lambe
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/Victoria.htm
____________________________
Your (network's) aim - to destroy my work
and credibility and marginalise me is clear - (my motivation)
"Any collective wishing to call itself Darwin Indymedia would therefore
require, as part of it's constitution, to exclude this individual
(mick lambe) and would automatically forfeit it's place as an I M
C if he were ever to become a member." [1] - proposal by Andrew Lowenthal
(Melbourne indymedia)
just like all the White Australian trash who have tried before
you are short-term thinkers as your foray into neo-nazi tactics has
demonstrated - they are not sustainable tactics
mine are
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- notes
Cameron Greggs (sydney indymedia) to DIMC
(darwin imc) "You have to co-operate with the indymedia powers-that-be
if you want to be part of it.
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/resolve/2006-March/0310-cl.html
That is the way things are.
That is all I am saying. THAT IS THE WAY THINGS ARE.
It may not be right, it may not be just"
Mick darwin indymedia - "We do not recognise any "powers-that-be"
- that is hierarchical and not what indymedia is about. If that is
the reality and innocent people must suffer it - there needs to be
some change"
Cam quoting Mick - We do not recognise any "powers-that-be"
Cam - Ok, it seems they dont recognise you either.
Consider that an opportunity Mick. Stacy can be won over.
It may not be the way you like doing things, but if you really really
really want the domain back, maybe you would consider this option.
There are many others that would block a new-imc application if you
are involved.
One of the most vocal, as you are aware, is and _ from melbourne IMC.
From my conversations with him, he will be allot harder to win over
than Stacy is.
I would recommend you approach 'and_' (Andrew
Lowenthal) and tell him you want to put things in the past
and start again.
Be nice about it, be humble"
______________
Such political and personal SUBMISSION would have seen me breach my
own ethical standards as well as those laid out clearly in the POU
PRINCIPLES OF UNITY
1. The Independent Media Center Network (IMCN) is based upon
principles of equality, decentralization and local autonomy. The IMCN
is not derived from a centralized bureaucratic process, but from the
self-organization of autonomous collectives that recognize the importance
in developing a union of networks.
2. All IMC's consider open exchange of and open access to information
a prerequisite to the building of a more free and just society.
3. All IMC's respect the right of activists who choose not
to be photographed or filmed.]
4. All IMC's, based upon the trust of their contributors and
readers, shall utilize open web based publishing, allowing individuals,
groups and organizations to express their views, anonymously if desired.
**see appendix: Open Publishing document --> still in proposal
phase, at this address: http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-communication/2001-April/001707.html
http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/imc-communication/2001-April/000874.html
5. The IMC Network and all local IMC collectives shall be not-for-profit.
6. All IMC's recognize the importance of process to social change
and are committed to the development of non-hierarchical and anti-authoritarian
relationships, from interpersonal relationships to group dynamics.
Therefore, shall organize themselves collectively and be committed
to the principle of consensus decision making and the development
of a direct, participatory democratic process] that is transparent
to its membership.
7. [All IMC's recognize that a prerequisite for participation
in the decision making process of each local group is the contribution
of an individual's labor to the group.]
8. All IMC's are committed to caring for one another and our
respective communities both collectively and as individuals and will
promote the sharing of resources including knowledge, skills and equipment.
9. All IMC's shall be committed to the use of free source code,
whenever possible, in order to develop the digital infrastructure,
and to increase the independence of the network by not relying on
proprietary software.
10. All IMC's shall be committed to the principle of human
equality, and shall not discriminate, including discrimination based
upon race, gender, age, class or sexual orientation. Recognizing the
vast cultural traditions within the network, we are committed to building
[diversity] within our localities.
_____________________________________
pariahnt.org
/Oz-indymedia
You had better come up with a position on this Joe Toscano - because
you are next if you agree with this secular perversion of indymedia
and the clear abuses of our Human Rights
- I have already criticised your article ''Who Owns Land In An
Anarchist Society?" - which does not even mention Indigenous people
http://www.pariahnt.org/Oz-indymedia/pages/We_hate_Australia_-_Day.htm
(Normally spaced for subhuman (word) filter on this so-called Open
Publishing site)
- for the same reasons I have defended you (and Socialists) in the
past against unfair criticism
It seemed the right thing to do - regardless of
personal/political consequences
============================
http://www.pariahnt.org/Oz-indymedia/pages/Joe_Toscano_taken_to_task.htm
How
HATE organisations function...
by m i c k Sunday February 04, 2007 at 05:53 PM
...poorly
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Give
ya 10 for effort mate !!!
by not indy Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:07 PM
say
anything about HREOC and von Dousa thats negative around here
and perth and they take it down for sure !!
independent?? i think NOT
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Fuck
off Mick
by Your a troll Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:12 PM
Nobody
gives a shit about your fantasy.
Fuck off.
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take
them on with us - join our campaign
by m i c k Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:18 PM
the
CLP (former government here) were considered invulnerable
letting a network that has tried to destroy me and anyone I
associated with, survive - is not an option
Like the CLP (all autocrats) they do not even know they are
beaten
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doktor
by on the way Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:24 PM
seek
help, you stalking, spamming, cocksucker .. you're not even good at
making enemies ... negative attention is better than no attenntion at
all .. isn't it child?
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Troll?
This is a Troll - one of your mob
by m i c k Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:30 PM
artwork
of these poor little kids - (mick lambe)
One
Mile Dam is worth millions to the developers this
network sides with - get paid did ya?
This scumbag defended Ruddock's policy of incarcerating and
psychologically damaging children
indymedia's preferred voice in the N T ?
- some gutless anon HATE Troll?
figures
(Some
of Oz indymedia's Troll's years of disgusting HATE - hosted
proudly by Andrew
Lowenthal and Takver and supported by political
luminaries such as Joe
Toscano - the politicisation of an independent media
resource for activists)
_________________________
Half/man cries and ejaculates
by Bushy • Monday January 01, 2007 at 11:46 PM
Both into a tissue. The same one usually.
Sometimes he finds a new one on the street or in bin's.
Sometimes in carparks down at Vestey's Beach after couples have
been down there on a Friday night.
____________________________
From the racist, sexist, homophobic HATE TROLL that Oz indymedia
host -
"You exploitative fucking lying Half/man"
(Ed: half man means subhuman)
"YOUR A LYING DISGUTING PIECE OF SHIT AND EVERYONE IS GOING
TO FIND OUT. I PROMISE YOU."
____________________________
(Ed: Evidence is one method I use to expose liars)
as seen here
pariahnt.org/Oz-indymedia
normally spaced for (word) subhuman filter - My evidence is
deleted while this sick nazi's hateful and unsubstantiated accusations
are hosted by the autocrats that run OUR indymedia 24/7 and
have been for years
_________________________________
This creature whose hate is now encouraged by O z indymedia
was banned on darwin indymedia for obvious breaches of Ed Pol
Mick Lambe the big fucking sook
by Bushy, Sunday May 25, 2003
"[Please note that "Bushy" has been identified as a troll who's
main interest is in starting flame wars, by the MelbIndy collective.
He has posted under numerous psuedonyms, nearly always to flame
someone or post an EdPol breaching post. His post below is a
clear example of this. Please keep this in mind as you hear
its protests about havingits posts pulled - Ed.
(ZB).]" -Nigel
(melbourne indymedia)
"You cunts on the Indymedia collective are just as pathetic
as Micky Boy."
"You are the most fucking gutless bunch of poofters that I have
ever come across. You alow a known "chi ld mo lester " like
Mick Lambe to crap on non stop and then act like his fucking
servent and remove any comment that is in anyway critical of
him."
"You make me want to vomit."
Ed: Since melbourne indymedia decided to attack myself
and our people - this sick homophobic, racist creature has been
given free reign to lie and abuse
my human rights
This hate-filled 'White Australian' - who goes on about me being
its "bitch" - and how I abuse and exploit Aboriginal people
- (no specifics just ugly unsubstantiated lies to discredit
my decades of hard work) - is allowed to make these accusations
because of the biased politicisation of Oz indymedia by its
fellow bigots and paternalistic racists
In its own words - a reply to my article - 'We hate Australia'
- Day - this HATE TROLL reveals its White Australian mentality
and the reasons for its years of ugly lies and HATE posts against
an anti-racism activist
"Australia Day" on Aboriginal communities
by Bushy Friday January 26, 2007
It's a funny thing but from what I gather most remote Aboriginal
communities actually look forward to "Australia Day". Not for
what it commemorates but for the fact that somthing different
is happening in town.
I have spent a bit of time during the wet out at Maningrida
and the 26th of January is a much vaunted date on the communities
calendar. Stuff happens.
BBQ breakfast, footy match, sack races. They even have a spear
throwing accuracy competition.
Enduring a flag raising ceromony and a couple of speeches is
the cost of admission for a day of hijinks.
It might not fit right but while a party is being laid on why
shouldn't people take advantage of it?
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'How non-White-Australians see things'
by pariah Saturday January 26, 2007
Indigenous people have always resisted occupation - ceded no
lands
The White/English occupation is illegal
Evidence?
White/English laws forbid...
- mass murder
- rape
- child slavery
- forced labour
- the separation of families by force
- the use of the Law for racist exploitative control on 'communities'
- the racist use of eugenics (the State policies of "breeding
out" - the Stolen Generations)
- the use of the Law to 'legally' remove a peoples humanity
(Aboriginal people came under the 'flora and fauna' acts in
NSW until too recently)
- the indiscriminate punitive use of Police and the black trackers
they exploited - (We use some Aboriginal Police to move Aboriginal
people on in Darwin - They have vans now - but are still not
trusted with guns - Some are little better than intimidatory
thugs so that may be as well - Darwin is a very small town and
such behaviour is noted and networked very quickly)
All tactics of an ongoing cultural and physical genocide
...during 'land transactions'
_____________________________
- the same White/English laws also forbid people being treated
unequally due to 'race' - and are as effective
We know all about Maningrida - do a search of our sites (Bill
Day - Longgrassers) - Some good people I know from Maningrida
- (their son hanged himself recently) - they fought the White
exploitative overseers there...(whose self-justifying 'White
Australian' delusions we share via this anon White Australian)
...for years
One of our d a r w i n collective members lived at Maningrida
for years and was partner to a Maningrida man
http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/Kenbi-Claim-shell-game.htm
Aboriginal people have the lowest social - (particularly health*)
- outcomes of all 'Australians'
---- The NT Health Minister Jane Aagaard* confirmed that fact
under my cross-examination during the Parliament Invasion court
case - which only required that (one) answer
I deal in reality - I have no wish to contribute to your insulting,
patronising, insensitive racist White Australian delusions
Aboriginal (and non-Aboriginal) prisoners in Berrimah look forward
to 'Australia' Day too - for the same reasons as those in remote
Aboriginal communities...
...the food is better - the boredom is alleviated and their
"hijinks" - seem to please the bosses
__________________________
"[Please note that "B u s h y" has been identified as a troll
who's main interest is in starting flame wars, by the MelbIndy
collective. " - 2003
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White Australian Hate merchant - OUTED
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mick
is a bully
by frank Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:32 PM
what
a cunt mick is. he wants to destroy indymedia. i say destroy mick. nobody
is taking my indymedia away.
fuck off mick, go complain somewhere else. leave our indy be. we want
to read real news, not your reposted crap over and over again.
dont you get it? nobody cares about your childish whinge.
fuck off.
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wrong
again
by scopic Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:39 PM
that
idiot can't destroy anything; the mods will clean up shortly
-- ignore the prick at all times -- LAST COMMENT!
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I
consider your comments...
by m i c k Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:43 PM
... entirely positive
________________
Takver, Lowenthal , Scheff, Toscano...
...know they are beaten in logic and tactics
not because I'm cleverer - but because I tell the Truth - as their failure
to refute my worldview demonstrates
all you have left is HATE and insults - as your network fades - and
others join our campaign to make this network accountable - progressive
- and politically balanced...
...or extinct
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who
are you accusing mick?
by lawyer Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:46 PM
"we
did not post up images of anyones dead and battered friends or
invade peoples homes and harass and threaten them in public"
Are you accusing the Melbourne IMC of doing this mick?
Make your self clear.
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Now
this is why Howard is laughing his ass off
by not me Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:46 PM
these
Mods are idiots anyways
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apart
from adelaide imc...
by mick Sunday February 04, 2007 at 06:56 PM
...
your network has condoned ALL of the neo-nazi tactics described
Intimidation, HATE/RACE campaigns, home-intrusions, homophobic
HATE rants in the streets, paternalistic racism, ugly anon emails
to my friends and associates, lies, ugly false accusations, et
al
So melbourne imc (excluding Nigel) is entirely responsible for
these tactics - ALL of them
That clear enough?
Do a google search for "neo-nazi tactics"
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=neo-nazi+tactics&ie=utf-8&oe
That should help
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what?
where?
by mick is lying Sunday February 04, 2007 at 07:00 PM
Can
you provide a link to where melbourne IMC has condoned such tactics?
please provide proof.
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a
link? :-)
by m i c k Sunday February 04, 2007 at 07:23 PM
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/
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This FAILED proposal best sums up melb imc's support for their
network's HATE tactics used (unsuccessfully) to destroy an individual
activist's reputation and political effectiveness...
...and to politically disenfranchise our AFFILIATED darwin collective
which has yet to be accused of any wrong-doing
Your use of melbourne indymedia to host thousands of hateful accusations
and lies in breach of Ed Pol, process, basic journalistic ethics
and the POU for over 6 years is no secret
_______________
"Any collective wishing to call
itself Darwin Indymedia would therefore require, as part of it's
constitution, to exclude this individual (mick lambe) and would
automatically forfeit it's place as an IMC if he were ever to
become a member." [1] - proposal by Andrew Lowenthal
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defeated by paris, cyprus, amsterdam imcs and Nigel (melb imc)
even the
arafura imc (locals we expelled)
- thanks
gary
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You
really are the most disgusting piece of shit going around
(Ed
- about this longerm hate
troll)
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